Deadly Force: "I cannot breathe"

[OkieDokie]

These are crooks, not protesters. Flat out crooks.

And Mayor/Gov not calling in Nat Guard once they saw video, they knew what was gonna happen.

Can’t go to work in Minny but you can loot.

[mjollnir]

May 28, 2020 9:04:16 GMT -6 JimmyinSD said:

May 28, 2020 7:46:51 GMT -6 mjollnir said:

So a cop was killed today in Grand Forks. Are we allowed to riot and loot? Just asking for a concerned group?

Yes these cops need to face justice. But I am concerned how blind these people are to the larger percentage of crimes on themselves. But then that does not fit the agenda of being suppressed and victim hood.

was the offender of a different skin color?

if yes,  then yes... see every race riot in the last ... how many years

if no,  then no....see every weekend in Chicago.

Yes the offender was.  He killed the Grand Forks PD Officer, a gal yet to be named was also killed (at this point they do not know by whom) and wounded the Sheriff Deputy.  Hum national news has not taken it upfor the cycle...why am I not surprized?

[mjollnir]

May 28, 2020 9:04:06 GMT -6 eternalpurple said:

May 28, 2020 7:46:51 GMT -6 mjollnir said:

So a cop was killed today in Grand Forks. Are we allowed to riot and loot? Just asking for a concerned group?

Yes these cops need to face justice. But I am concerned how blind these people are to the larger percentage of crimes on themselves. But then that does not fit the agenda of being suppressed and victim hood.

Yep. What the police need to do is arrest all the white anarchist. That would at least cut the numbers down by half.

He was not white

[mjollnir]

May 28, 2020 10:19:33 GMT -6 nodakviking said:

May 28, 2020 6:56:43 GMT -6 JimmyinSD said:

something snapped in that cop,  it will never excuse his actions,  but I really want to know what led up to the point that the video started that led to the other cops not intervening.

Me too.

I mean it was reported as a forgery attempt correct.  That hardly warrants 4 officers, and even so with a cooperative person it should be a simple process to cuff the person and put them in a car.  I always hate to knee jerk not having all the information.

There isn't even a coroners report yet to support the assumption he died from the knee on the neck, rather than possibly a heart condition or something else.  That said there should never be a knee on the neck, especially when he is already cuffed.  The rioting undermines the cause and the attacking of police isn't going to lead to an improvement in relations they are looking for.

Was it forgery or passing counterfeit bills?  The response was still completely incorrect

[JimmyinSD]

May 28, 2020 12:42:38 GMT -6 mjollnir said:

May 28, 2020 10:19:33 GMT -6 nodakviking said:

Me too.

I mean it was reported as a forgery attempt correct.  That hardly warrants 4 officers, and even so with a cooperative person it should be a simple process to cuff the person and put them in a car.  I always hate to knee jerk not having all the information.

There isn't even a coroners report yet to support the assumption he died from the knee on the neck, rather than possibly a heart condition or something else.  That said there should never be a knee on the neck, especially when he is already cuffed.  The rioting undermines the cause and the attacking of police isn't going to lead to an improvement in relations they are looking for.

Was it forgery or passing counterfeit bills?  The response was still completely incorrect

the reports are when they tried to arrest him he got violent and resisted arrest.... reports is all we have at this time though.   where are the dash and body cams?  

[toledoviking]

I agree the guy on the neck murder the other 3 accessory. plus not stopping the one on the neck 

[vikingfan52]

I can understand the anger. But I haven’t heard anyone, not one that didn’t feel those officers were wrong and felt deserved to be charged...

those looting are going overboard, wonder how many non locals instigating.

we had a situation here 2-3 years ago. In North Charleston. I think most know the south is more touchy racial wise.

a white police officer shot an unarmed black man in back running away.  Tension was high, but the good people here held or stood fast.  Let the courts handle it.maybe different if courts dismissed, but sentenced heavy. I think life... 

but the good people here stood strong.   They formed a community group to work on police civilian relations and what goes on in the department.still working on that today.

But It didn’t take long for action groups from other areas to come in to try and stir the fire.But the Charleston blacks stayed Charleston strong.held it with quality

[angryguy77]

May 28, 2020 11:35:46 GMT -6 JimmyinSD said:

May 28, 2020 11:15:45 GMT -6 angryguy77 said:

You're not having a knee-jerk reaction at all. This isn't a case of another camera angle coming to light which will explain things away. Even if the guy was on drugs, there's 4-5 cops and he was cuffed already. Once cuffed, there was 0 danger to the cops or people around.

I still cannot believe they just let those murderers walk. How do you not jail them? I don't condone the riots and have no pity if anyone involved in that gets a beatdown, but letting those cops walk made the situation worse. I do think there would've been a riot regardless, but I don't think the crowd would have been as big.

how much of the protesting is about the situation vs just being angry over their own situation and having an opportunity to show it? 

this goes back to BLM,  if they really were about showing that black lives matter as much as any other,  then why do they only really flare up when it can be racially fueled?  if I was part of that group I would have my headquarters in the south side of Chicago and have rallys every weekend in every major high crime area that leads to massive loss of life for the black community.  IMO the cop angle is just a convenient one because it generates a lot of emotion.  1 is to many indeed, but how many black people are unjustly killed by cops annually in the US?  

I think most of them just took this opportunity to loot, but I think the crowd that showed up initially before the looting started would've been as big. If that crowd had been smaller, I think their might have been less looting as well.

[fairweatherfan]

At least one of the looters got shot and killed, so that's a good thing. Hope he had a family that's miserable right now.

[JimmyinSD]

May 28, 2020 14:57:34 GMT -6 fairweatherfan said:

At least one of the looters got shot and killed, so that's a good thing. Hope he had a family that's miserable right now.

WTF?

You wish misery on strangers for no reason?

That's fucked up.

[OkieDokie]

[OkieDokie]

May 28, 2020 15:41:05 GMT -6 JimmyinSD said:

May 28, 2020 14:57:34 GMT -6 fairweatherfan said:

At least one of the looters got shot and killed, so that's a good thing. Hope he had a family that's miserable right now.

WTF?

You wish misery on strangers for no reason?

That's fucked up.

Is it better to let the looters who are in a state of rage grab owners gun and then its news about a dead store owner instead?

[OkieDokie]

[gophersturf10]

May 28, 2020 15:41:05 GMT -6 JimmyinSD said:

May 28, 2020 14:57:34 GMT -6 fairweatherfan said:

At least one of the looters got shot and killed, so that's a good thing. Hope he had a family that's miserable right now.

WTF?

You wish misery on strangers for no reason?

That's fucked up.

Jimmy as I’m concerned he brought that open himself. You come to my place of business or home to loot or any other no good reason you seal your own destiny.

[OkieDokie]

WTF?

Prepare for Minny to burn to the ground if no charges are filed. I don’t care what other evidence you have he murdered that guy. With 4 officers and handcuffed he can’t run away.