JimmyinSD
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Post by JimmyinSD on Mar 19, 2019 8:48:15 GMT -6
the thing is... just like i mentioned before.. conservatives wanting twitter to treat everybody the same is exactly the same as liberals wanting to tell the baker that they have to bake wedding cakes for homosexuals. these are private businesses and they should be allowed to run them the way they choose. let the consumer decide if they are just or not, keep the govt the fuck out IMO and with legal challenges to private enterprise that is just inviting the govt in by setting legal precedents that will be bent and torutured to fit future liberal positions. we all lose. I get it but it's not the best analogy either. We have a right to free speech but not cakes. Plus, it is MUCH easier to find another baker than it is another social platform. you obviously havent been involved in planning a wedding lately....
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Funkytown
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Post by Funkytown on Mar 19, 2019 9:18:11 GMT -6
I get it but it's not the best analogy either. We have a right to free speech but not cakes. Plus, it is MUCH easier to find another baker than it is another social platform. It is? Do you live in small town, America? I do, and I think I'd have to travel nearly an hour to explore bakeries to do a wedding. And we literally have dozens of social platforms at our fingertips. So, which is easier for a lot of us? Well, all of us, really...
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Post by angryguy77 on Mar 19, 2019 9:26:54 GMT -6
Remember in the 90's how the liberals were crying for the fairness doctrine to make a comeback due to Rush and conservatives ruling AM radio? I didn't support it then, and can't support the gov policing private companies now. That being said, the gov does have the authority to break up monopolies and do things like nodak suggests which would be constitutional.
The reality is, we're screwed no matter what, even if twitter is forced to be unbiased. If the majority of people are too ignorant to form opinions from what they see on twitter or another social media site, then there is no amount of regulation that will save us from ourselves.
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JimmyinSD
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Post by JimmyinSD on Mar 19, 2019 9:27:15 GMT -6
I get it but it's not the best analogy either. We have a right to free speech but not cakes. Plus, it is MUCH easier to find another baker than it is another social platform. It is? Do you live in small town, America? I do, and I think I'd have to travel nearly an hour to explore bakeries to do a wedding. And we literally have dozens of social platforms at our fingertips. So, which is easier for a lot of us? Well, all of us, really... Infairness he doesnt live in a small rural town (unless he moved) so yes he is likely talking from a different perspective.
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Post by SmokedPears on Mar 19, 2019 9:36:24 GMT -6
I get it but it's not the best analogy either. We have a right to free speech but not cakes. Plus, it is MUCH easier to find another baker than it is another social platform. you obviously havent been involved in planning a wedding lately.... Not yet but my daughter soon...
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Post by SmokedPears on Mar 19, 2019 9:39:57 GMT -6
I get it but it's not the best analogy either. We have a right to free speech but not cakes. Plus, it is MUCH easier to find another baker than it is another social platform. It is? Do you live in small town, America? I do, and I think I'd have to travel nearly an hour to explore bakeries to do a wedding. And we literally have dozens of social platforms at our fingertips. So, which is easier for a lot of us? Well, all of us, really... I guess I see them all the same. ALL the big tech companies are run by people from the same philosophical vein. They are all restricting speech. All the big ones... There are some upstarts but the audience isn't there. Maybe it will be at some point but it looks pretty bleak right now.
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Post by SmokedPears on Mar 19, 2019 9:41:40 GMT -6
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Post by SmokedPears on Mar 19, 2019 9:43:05 GMT -6
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malschla
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Post by malschla on Mar 19, 2019 9:48:36 GMT -6
I really don't want to get into a situation where Twitter is regulated (though I don't use the site, or any "social media" other than this and VikeFans). However, because Twitter is curating the content available, they are technically editing the available information, and consequently might no longer be considered a platform, but a media source subject to the same libel laws as a newspaper. In effect, by limiting anything on their "platform", they are taking ownership of the content, making them responsible for what is and isn't "published".
So, while I don't want to create a special law for them, they might have accidentally put themselves under the same laws that govern the rest of media.
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JimmyinSD
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Post by JimmyinSD on Mar 19, 2019 10:07:48 GMT -6
I really don't want to get into a situation where Twitter is regulated (though I don't use the site, or any "social media" other than this and VikeFans). However, because Twitter is curating the content available, they are technically editing the available information, and consequently might no longer be considered a platform, but a media source subject to the same libel laws as a newspaper. In effect, by limiting anything on their "platform", they are taking ownership of the content, making them responsible for what is and isn't "published". So, while I don't want to create a special law for them, they might have accidentally put themselves under the same laws that govern the rest of media. I wonder if this is why some news sites have turned off their "comments" sections?
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Funkytown
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Post by Funkytown on Mar 19, 2019 10:36:51 GMT -6
I guess I see them all the same. ALL the big tech companies are run by people from the same philosophical vein. They are all restricting speech. All the big ones... There are some upstarts but the audience isn't there. Maybe it will be at some point but it looks pretty bleak right now. Try reddit, 4chan, 8chan, etc. There are places - popular places - where just about anything goes.
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Funkytown
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Post by Funkytown on Mar 19, 2019 10:45:40 GMT -6
if we had assholes come in here and bashing the Vikings non stop...(oh wait, bad example) but you get my meaning, they dont get any public funding... they are just a private medium that is made avaialable to the general public but I am sure when yall signed up it is very clearly stated that they control the content of their forum. This. I've never been anywhere, in real life or on the internet, that I felt I could say whatever I wanted. Not that I'm an obscene psycho or anything, I just don't think it truly exists - nor should it - outside of those dark, dark places on the internet. Every online community I've ever been part of has guidelines in place for what is acceptable and what isn't. It is what it is. If you disagree with said guidelines, you can always move along and find something that is a better fit. There is a choice to be made: move on or stay and feel sorry for yourself.
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malschla
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Post by malschla on Mar 19, 2019 11:07:06 GMT -6
I really don't want to get into a situation where Twitter is regulated (though I don't use the site, or any "social media" other than this and VikeFans). However, because Twitter is curating the content available, they are technically editing the available information, and consequently might no longer be considered a platform, but a media source subject to the same libel laws as a newspaper. In effect, by limiting anything on their "platform", they are taking ownership of the content, making them responsible for what is and isn't "published". So, while I don't want to create a special law for them, they might have accidentally put themselves under the same laws that govern the rest of media. I wonder if this is why some news sites have turned off their "comments" sections? It absolutely has something to do with it. Basically, it's looking like the law will eventually find that you can either allow everything or nothing. Until courts decide, it's better safe than sorry.
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OkieDokie
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Post by OkieDokie on Mar 19, 2019 11:14:44 GMT -6
This is where its dangerous (censoring) and where you will find real collusion:
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JimmyinSD
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Post by JimmyinSD on Mar 19, 2019 11:38:13 GMT -6
This is where its dangerous (censoring) and where you will find real collusion: but thats because twitter isnt scary, its a cute little blue bird, not a big mean steroid freak that just killed apollo....oh yeah and its because its not the same russia that obama and the clintons colluded and worked with when they were in office... this is the big scary organized russia.... that the dems helped create.
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