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Post by Movikx on Aug 22, 2020 21:31:00 GMT -6
Watch this all the way he makes a good point about woke MSS Media fighting for the same 25% audience and Outkick gets to run in and get a lot of the other 75% Valued at $100 million by next year? Wow that was quick!! I’m not really surprised at this. Smart move on their part. They know the majority of sports fans don’t want to hear the woke BS, they just want to watch and enjoy the games. Theres a lot of disenfranchised sports fans out there right now. If NBA viewership is down 40% I can only imagine the hit the NFL will take when the players stand for the black anthem then kneel for the national anthem... Bet it will be more than a 50% hit.
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Post by IceRatz16 on Aug 22, 2020 21:43:33 GMT -6
The more players get vocal the more my boycott is reinforced. I don’t turn on CNN to watch sports and won’t turn on football to watch politics Barr's dumber than I thought and he needs to keep his mouth shut and play football. He and his boy from UCLA, Kendricks are leading the charge in stupidity so far. I liked both players, but they better not ruin this squad with their nonsense.
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 23, 2020 6:24:32 GMT -6
The more players get vocal the more my boycott is reinforced. I don’t turn on CNN to watch sports and won’t turn on football to watch politics They never should have resigned this guy. He thinks just because he puts on a football uniform people care what he stands for...if he was just a common non-athlete chances are quite high nobody would even know who he was, let alone care about what he stands for. Just shut-up Anthony and make a play once in awhile. That's funny.
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 23, 2020 6:26:28 GMT -6
The more players get vocal the more my boycott is reinforced. I don’t turn on CNN to watch sports and won’t turn on football to watch politics Barr's dumber than I thought and he needs to keep his mouth shut and play football. He and his boy from UCLA, Kendricks are leading the charge in stupidity so far. I liked both players, but they better not ruin this squad with their nonsense. and he needs to keep his mouth shut Yes. Funny.
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Post by vikingdan on Aug 23, 2020 7:33:59 GMT -6
It's funny to me to be lectured from some of the most privileged people that walk the face of the planet. Paid millions of dollars to play a game. They were "the man" from their pee wee football days, through high school and of course in college and now as highly paid professional athletes. Sure they work hard, so do farmers, so do nurses, and tens of millions of other people that have no built in privilege except that of living in a free country where you can make their own way. I will pass on this season and watching a bunch of privileged athletes denigrate the flag and perpetuate the lies the left are spinning right now.
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Post by IceRatz16 on Aug 23, 2020 10:22:32 GMT -6
Barr's dumber than I thought and he needs to keep his mouth shut and play football. He and his boy from UCLA, Kendricks are leading the charge in stupidity so far. I liked both players, but they better not ruin this squad with their nonsense. and he needs to keep his mouth shut Yes. Funny. Is this a new game we are playing? I'm sure we all can find funny things in sentences that can be taken out of context. "Funny."
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 23, 2020 16:58:17 GMT -6
It's funny to me to be lectured from some of the most privileged people that walk the face of the planet. Paid millions of dollars to play a game. They were "the man" from their pee wee football days, through high school and of course in college and now as highly paid professional athletes. Sure they work hard, so do farmers, so do nurses, and tens of millions of other people that have no built in privilege except that of living in a free country where you can make their own way. I will pass on this season and watching a bunch of privileged athletes denigrate the flag and perpetuate the lies the left are spinning right now. Funny you rail against the black man of privilege. but not the white CEO. Not the POTUS born with a silver spoon. Just the black man because you don't like that they speak up for those less fortunate then they are. It's not that you don't like the methods, you don't like the stepping out of line. Shut up and dribble is what I keep seeing and hearing. What if they told you that? Shut up and listen. You would lose your mind. If my brother is hurting, I am hurting. Don't watch then. Just shut up. Just shut up and don't watch. How do you like that? We don't want to hear your political take on a sport. Just shut up and don't watch.
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 23, 2020 16:59:28 GMT -6
Is this a new game we are playing? I'm sure we all can find funny things in sentences that can be taken out of context. "Funny." What did I take out of context? I just said it was funny.
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Post by BadgerVol on Aug 23, 2020 17:16:06 GMT -6
I have no problem with pro athletes using their platform as they’d like to.
I have no problem with owners not signing players they don’t want representing their company/team.
I have no problem with fans boycotting or giving up on sports.
I have no problem with everyone talking about it.
I also fully embrace that with that freedom of speech everyone has to take with it the good and the bad.
Let the marketplace determine things and leave people to be free.
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Post by IceRatz16 on Aug 23, 2020 20:51:20 GMT -6
It's funny to me to be lectured from some of the most privileged people that walk the face of the planet. Paid millions of dollars to play a game. They were "the man" from their pee wee football days, through high school and of course in college and now as highly paid professional athletes. Sure they work hard, so do farmers, so do nurses, and tens of millions of other people that have no built in privilege except that of living in a free country where you can make their own way. I will pass on this season and watching a bunch of privileged athletes denigrate the flag and perpetuate the lies the left are spinning right now. Funny you rail against the black man of privilege. but not the white CEO. Not the POTUS born with a silver spoon. Just the black man because you don't like that they speak up for those less fortunate then they are. It's not that you don't like the methods, you don't like the stepping out of line. Shut up and dribble is what I keep seeing and hearing. What if they told you that? Shut up and listen. You would lose your mind. If my brother is hurting, I am hurting. Don't watch then. Just shut up. Just shut up and don't watch. How do you like that? We don't want to hear your political take on a sport. Just shut up and don't watch. So you think black people are the only race in this world that are "less fortunate"? Only "black lives matter", right? They are the only race that is being disgraced against in today's world, right? Your "brothers" as you say. How so exactly? The athletes speaking out have worked very hard to get to where they are and they know the sacrifice it takes to get to the level they are playing, no matter where they came from. But those who won't work that hard and choose to take a different path, should be coddled and cared for, just because they are black, no matter the strain that puts on the economy and the hard-working Americans? But it's ok that the latinos, caucasians, asians, etc that are less fortunate continue to suffer because they aren't black and since they don't have a movement for them? We are talking about a league that is isolating one race and choosing to succumb to the stupidity of this BLM movement, without fully understanding it and deciding that they will play a Black National Anthem to make everyone feel better, as if it that makes it all better... Are you serious? Do you see how that is actually the opposite of what should be happening? If there is truly a race issue, then why don't the black athletes just sit out and not play the sports they play for a living to boycott the disgrace their brothers and you feel until it gets fixed. If they feel so disgraced, why don't they just spend their days working to fix it instead of playing games? Maybe they should read more, like Lebrainiac reading Malcom X's book to assist in change and equality. And you act like Trump is the problem for the pure lunacy that has transpired. Did you live under a rock for the 8 years prior to 2016? How did your so-called "brother" [Obama] help the black communities? How did he help his home city, Chicago? Have you been closed-minded for the last 3.5 years and falling into the left media trap? I know you are more open-minded and quite intelligent actually. What have the Dems and the media done to help Trump? Hell, what have the republicans done to help him? Has Trump exposed the failed and shady political system and they are all doing what they can to stop him from succeeding and getting this country out of the dumpster fire it has been spiraling into? Is it a bad thing to want our president to succeed and help our country? It sure seems like it. Is he perfect? Hell no...who is? Is he looking out for him or his country?
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Post by vikingdan on Aug 24, 2020 16:09:59 GMT -6
It's funny to me to be lectured from some of the most privileged people that walk the face of the planet. Paid millions of dollars to play a game. They were "the man" from their pee wee football days, through high school and of course in college and now as highly paid professional athletes. Sure they work hard, so do farmers, so do nurses, and tens of millions of other people that have no built in privilege except that of living in a free country where you can make their own way. I will pass on this season and watching a bunch of privileged athletes denigrate the flag and perpetuate the lies the left are spinning right now. Funny you rail against the black man of privilege. but not the white CEO. Not the POTUS born with a silver spoon. Just the black man because you don't like that they speak up for those less fortunate then they are. It's not that you don't like the methods, you don't like the stepping out of line. Shut up and dribble is what I keep seeing and hearing. What if they told you that? Shut up and listen. You would lose your mind. If my brother is hurting, I am hurting. Don't watch then. Just shut up. Just shut up and don't watch. How do you like that? We don't want to hear your political take on a sport. Just shut up and don't watch. I railed against professional athletes pretending they aren't amongst a very select group of very privileged persons on this earth pretending they are standing up against privilege. I didn't mention race because there are white and black players planning to kneel during the anthem (many other other races in other sports). It wasn't a relevant factor except to you. There are any number of companies I don't buy from because their CEO's support left wing causes. I didn't bother to look up the CEO's races, since you seem so concerned maybe you could make me a list. It won't matter to me but maybe it will fit your worldview better by accusing me of something I didn't do. You bet shut up and and dribble, catch, kick etc etc...I pay to watch sports not someone denigrate the flag and spread political messages. They can do as they please when they aren't on the field, that's the same freedom afforded all of us and whether I like it or not I support anyone's right to peacefully protest on their own time. It would be the same sentiment if I walked into a place of business with an anti 2nd amendment or pro abortion sticker in the window. I pay for the goods and services at that business not to hear their personal politics. As for you telling me to shut up, please, I know your as tough as they come on an internet board but I think I'll take my chances and post as I see fit.
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Post by gophersturf10 on Aug 24, 2020 16:28:47 GMT -6
Funny you rail against the black man of privilege. but not the white CEO. Not the POTUS born with a silver spoon. Just the black man because you don't like that they speak up for those less fortunate then they are. It's not that you don't like the methods, you don't like the stepping out of line. Shut up and dribble is what I keep seeing and hearing. What if they told you that? Shut up and listen. You would lose your mind. If my brother is hurting, I am hurting. Don't watch then. Just shut up. Just shut up and don't watch. How do you like that? We don't want to hear your political take on a sport. Just shut up and don't watch. Krammer did you support Tim Tebow when he took a knee?? I did and didn’t make fuss about it and didn’t try to ram it down someone else’s throat...And as far as the 45 is concerned show me another President that has done more for the black community... Don’t take it from me listen to them. Jim Brown former Cleveland Browns rb would be a great start. He voted For Hillary and a month later he regretted it..
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 24, 2020 18:13:47 GMT -6
Funny you rail against the black man of privilege. but not the white CEO. Not the POTUS born with a silver spoon. Just the black man because you don't like that they speak up for those less fortunate then they are. It's not that you don't like the methods, you don't like the stepping out of line. Shut up and dribble is what I keep seeing and hearing. What if they told you that? Shut up and listen. You would lose your mind. If my brother is hurting, I am hurting. Don't watch then. Just shut up. Just shut up and don't watch. How do you like that? We don't want to hear your political take on a sport. Just shut up and don't watch. So you think black people are the only race in this world that are "less fortunate"? Only "black lives matter", right? They are the only race that is being disgraced against in today's world, right? Your "brothers" as you say. How so exactly? The athletes speaking out have worked very hard to get to where they are and they know the sacrifice it takes to get to the level they are playing, no matter where they came from. But those who won't work that hard and choose to take a different path, should be coddled and cared for, just because they are black, no matter the strain that puts on the economy and the hard-working Americans? But it's ok that the latinos, caucasians, asians, etc that are less fortunate continue to suffer because they aren't black and since they don't have a movement for them? We are talking about a league that is isolating one race and choosing to succumb to the stupidity of this BLM movement, without fully understanding it and deciding that they will play a Black National Anthem to make everyone feel better, as if it that makes it all better... Are you serious? Do you see how that is actually the opposite of what should be happening? If there is truly a race issue, then why don't the black athletes just sit out and not play the sports they play for a living to boycott the disgrace their brothers and you feel until it gets fixed. If they feel so disgraced, why don't they just spend their days working to fix it instead of playing games? Maybe they should read more, like Lebrainiac reading Malcom X's book to assist in change and equality. And you act like Trump is the problem for the pure lunacy that has transpired. Did you live under a rock for the 8 years prior to 2016? How did your so-called "brother" [Obama] help the black communities? How did he help his home city, Chicago? Have you been closed-minded for the last 3.5 years and falling into the left media trap? I know you are more open-minded and quite intelligent actually. What have the Dems and the media done to help Trump? Hell, what have the republicans done to help him? Has Trump exposed the failed and shady political system and they are all doing what they can to stop him from succeeding and getting this country out of the dumpster fire it has been spiraling into? Is it a bad thing to want our president to succeed and help our country? It sure seems like it. Is he perfect? Hell no...who is? Is he looking out for him or his country? Ton of shit to unpack here so I quoted you many time. Sue me. So you think black people are the only race in this world that are "less fortunate"? Only "black lives matter", right? They are the only race that is being disgraced against in today's world, right? Your "brothers" as you say. How so exactly? Clearly they are not the only ones. But they clearly suffer more and face far more challenges and judgments. White's abuse of welfare is a problem as well and they are not subject to the discrimination and hatred minorities(of all stripes) are in this country. Deny it all you want, that is a fact. But whites are given a pass and only illegals and "fatherless minorities are attacked for their dereliction of "effort". The athletes speaking out have worked very hard to get to where they are and they know the sacrifice it takes to get to the level they are playing, no matter where they came from. No doubt. I was not the one who said they are coddled all their lives. Talk to Dan about this point. But those who won't work that hard and choose to take a different path, should be coddled and cared for, just because they are black, no matter the strain that puts on the economy and the hard-working Americans? Who says they don't work hard? Who says they had every opportunity and wasted it? WASPS and FoxNews sells that shit all day everyday to pass benefits cuts to pad their pockets further. They sell that bill of goods to more than just you. You have to fool more than 35% of the population to continue to sell that snake oil. Believe me. But it's ok that the latinos, caucasians, asians, etc that are less fortunate continue to suffer because they aren't black and since they don't have a movement for them? No it's not okay. But that does not make it wrong for a few black athletes to speak out for blacks either. I am pretty sure they would not tell latino, caucasian or asian celebrities to shut up and dribble, you know, like we do. We are talking about a league that is isolating one race and choosing to succumb to the stupidity of this BLM movement, without fully understanding it and deciding that they will play a Black National Anthem to make everyone feel better, as if it that makes it all better... What is the big deal? You can't even give them that? You DEMAND they stand and respect your shit and lose your fucking mind that they want something for themselves? Why? They are not demanding you stand and respect their shit. They will not boycott your bullshit if you take a knee to protest their shit. You don't even see the hypocrisy in your anger and demands. then why don't the black athletes just sit out and not play the sports they play for a living to boycott the disgrace their brothers and you feel until it gets fixed. That would just be dumb. Give up their platform. Protest at a game as a celebrity and you hate America. Protest in the streets as a nobody you are a rioter and a thug. It is a no win for them and you know it. You know deep down in your heart. You said it yourself. SHUT UP. Just shut up. No matter what they do or how they do it, you will hate it. That has been made clear here. And you act like Trump is the problem for the pure lunacy that has transpired. I don't believe I mentioned Trump once in this tet'a'tet. How did your so-called "brother" [Obama] help the black communities? Irrelevant. Trump was gonna fix everything. Remember? I do. We were told over and over and over and over and over what Obama didn't do and what he did wrong and Trump was going to fix this shit. Don't lie and say that was not the case. Now look at what we are arguing about. It appears you all will always have the "what about" arguments to fall back on when the Fake News chant doesn't work. How convenient, no thinking, no blame, no solutions. I so badly want to live in the conservative world where it is never our fault, we are never as bad as that other guy, and we don't have to support or think about anything. Has Trump exposed the failed and shady political system and they are all doing what they can to stop him from succeeding and getting this country out of the dumpster fire it has been spiraling into? LOL. Hell no. He IS the swamp. If you cannot see this, you are hopeless. But don't despair, you are right there with approximately 30% of this country. Is he looking out for him or his country? For him. Definitely, unequivocally, undeniably for him and only for him.
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 24, 2020 18:24:27 GMT -6
Krammer did you support Tim Tebow when he took a knee?? I did and didn’t make fuss about it and didn’t try to ram it down someone else’s throat...And as far as the 45 is concerned show me another President that has done more for the black community... Don’t take it from me listen to them. Jim Brown former Cleveland Browns rb would be a great start. He voted For Hillary and a month later he regretted it.. No I did not support him. But I didn't lose my shit over it either. I may be a hypocrite in this regard as separation of church and state for me should be absolute. I will grant you the point that an NFL game is by no means a "state" event, but I strongly believe in an individuals right to freely practice their religion in their home and their church. But absolutely, positively keep that shit out of my face. LOL. I kinda sound like the initial gay haters. "I don't hate gays, just quit shoving it down my throat." Only difference I would point out is gays don't repeatedly point out how terrible you are or try to recruit you to be gay. Bible thumpers just can't help themselves with their self righteousness.
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 24, 2020 18:41:01 GMT -6
Funny you rail against the black man of privilege. but not the white CEO. Not the POTUS born with a silver spoon. Just the black man because you don't like that they speak up for those less fortunate then they are. It's not that you don't like the methods, you don't like the stepping out of line. Shut up and dribble is what I keep seeing and hearing. What if they told you that? Shut up and listen. You would lose your mind. If my brother is hurting, I am hurting. Don't watch then. Just shut up. Just shut up and don't watch. How do you like that? We don't want to hear your political take on a sport. Just shut up and don't watch. I railed against professional athletes pretending they aren't amongst a very select group of very privileged persons on this earth pretending they are standing up against privilege. I didn't mention race because there are white and black players planning to kneel during the anthem (many other other races in other sports). It wasn't a relevant factor except to you. There are any number of companies I don't buy from because their CEO's support left wing causes. I didn't bother to look up the CEO's races, since you seem so concerned maybe you could make me a list. It won't matter to me but maybe it will fit your worldview better by accusing me of something I didn't do. You bet shut up and and dribble, catch, kick etc etc...I pay to watch sports not someone denigrate the flag and spread political messages. They can do as they please when they aren't on the field, that's the same freedom afforded all of us and whether I like it or not I support anyone's right to peacefully protest on their own time. It would be the same sentiment if I walked into a place of business with an anti 2nd amendment or pro abortion sticker in the window. I pay for the goods and services at that business not to hear their personal politics. As for you telling me to shut up, please, I know your as tough as they come on an internet board but I think I'll take my chances and post as I see fit. pretending they aren't amongst a very select group of very privileged persons on this earth pretending they are standing up against privilege. That is not at all why they are taking a knee. Try understanding what you are hating so much. It will give you more credibility. It wasn't a relevant factor except to you Umm. It's relevant to them, that's why they are doing it. That is the root of the problem. I know you are not racist and I know you don't discriminate, but again, please understand the issue you are so vehemently against. I didn't bother to look up the CEO's races, since you seem so concerned maybe you could make me a list. I will just tell you very few(fewer than national averages) minority CEOs. I know, shocking. .I pay to watch sports not someone denigrate the flag and spread political messages. So just do that. Skip what you hate so much and watch what you enjoy. Exactly how does this distract so much from what you actually enjoy. Tell the truth, you NEVER actually watched the national anthem before you heard some black guy was protesting did you? I can tell you I didn't. I didn't give a shit about it. I was peeing while the national anthem played so I wouldn't have to miss any of the game. After all, that is what I tuned in for. If you tell me that you honestly watched the national anthem before every game, I will take you at your word and apologize. I support anyone's right to peacefully protest on their own time. Sorry buddy. Not for you to decide. Free country, you know, freedom. Which you claim to be so important to you. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean everyone else has to listen to you or follow your little wants and needs. I pay for the goods and services at that business not to hear their personal politics. But I bet you supported the baker who refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding. Tell me I am wrong. I'll bet you are willing to hear certain politics, but no others. Equal rights for some, no rights for others. I would bet my house on it. I know your as tough as they come on an internet board but I think I'll take my chances and post as I see fit. Thanks for not getting the gist of my making that statement and trying to make me out like some bully like you are. I was trying to twist words said here to make you see what it was like being told to just shut up for saying what you believe. I wasn't actually trying to tell you to shut up. A lot can be lost in translation on internet board, but I thought it was pretty clear what I was trying to convey. Sorry for confusing you. And yes, I am as tough as the come. On the internet and in person. Just saying.
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