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Post by fairweatherfan on Apr 12, 2019 14:30:28 GMT -6
I think a lot of the stigma comes from the parents. so many parents went to a 4 year school and its like that is the benchmark for their kids. We think alike! I think there was an air of dignity and uppitidy-ness if you had a degree, say, in the baby boomer generation. I mean, didn't companies like insurance and stock brokers require the receptionist to have a college degree? And back then it probably was a symbol of more advanced learning, since you probably took math and economics and stuff.
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Post by tempevike on Apr 12, 2019 14:37:02 GMT -6
I would say nursing and accounting/finance are pretty good non STEM degrees. An LPN pays probably about $15K for education and can make over $60K. The average CPA makes six figures. I dont know of any LPNs making that kind of coin, but the trades say they arent to far from it in the highest paying states. RN AAS degrees are becoming popular again and they will make that kind of money though and really only require about another semester or so of schooling to complete. My daughter and her fiance are both carrying that degree and are starting out here in SD at about $50,000 a year each at 22 and 21 years old, and the benefits packages are great. I had to steer my daughter towards this path, but last week she said how happy she was to have her degree and 2 years experience as an LPN instead of still looking at another year of schooling if she had went to state for the RN BS degree and starting from scratch a year from now. The future is in community colleges and tech schools for these real life degrees at a common sense cost. Four 12 hour shifts at $25 an hour is $1,300 a week.
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JimmyinSD
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Post by JimmyinSD on Apr 12, 2019 14:47:55 GMT -6
I dont know of any LPNs making that kind of coin, but the trades say they arent to far from it in the highest paying states. RN AAS degrees are becoming popular again and they will make that kind of money though and really only require about another semester or so of schooling to complete. My daughter and her fiance are both carrying that degree and are starting out here in SD at about $50,000 a year each at 22 and 21 years old, and the benefits packages are great. I had to steer my daughter towards this path, but last week she said how happy she was to have her degree and 2 years experience as an LPN instead of still looking at another year of schooling if she had went to state for the RN BS degree and starting from scratch a year from now. The future is in community colleges and tech schools for these real life degrees at a common sense cost. Four 12 hour shifts at $25 an hour is $1,300 a week. The math works, but we have looked at a lot of LPN and RN openings with our kids the last few months and top end we saw for LPNs was south of $60K. That is more in line with starting RN wages up here. I am sure there might some isolated locations where the pay is better, but with advertised openings across the country for full time positions I wasnt seeing that kind of money in the ads or in the national earnings reports. also where are those jobs located? sometimes the money isnt telling the whole picture, $60k sounds good but isnt hardly a liveable wage in some locations, or worth the risk in others.
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vikingdan
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Post by vikingdan on Apr 12, 2019 14:49:58 GMT -6
The reality is many general degrees don't make sense for a lot of people. Trades are begging for new employees and the degrees cost less and take less time to get. I really don't understand why some very good blue collar jobs aren't as valued. Here's some inside info: many kids don't want these jobs. So a buddy of mine works as a utility lineman for the county he lives in. Good job, good pay and good benefits. He has a program where he will apprentice 4 high school kids a year and they will eventually be a utility lineman. Not only can he not get kids to sign up (its free), the ones he does quit after getting one paycheck or quit after a month. So he gets one kid a year basically that sticks with it. There are opportunities out there like this for a skilled trade but many suburban kids aren't interested. That's a shame, not sure they know what they are passing on.
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Post by tempevike on Apr 12, 2019 16:55:03 GMT -6
Four 12 hour shifts at $25 an hour is $1,300 a week. The math works, but we have looked at a lot of LPN and RN openings with our kids the last few months and top end we saw for LPNs was south of $60K. That is more in line with starting RN wages up here. I am sure there might some isolated locations where the pay is better, but with advertised openings across the country for full time positions I wasnt seeing that kind of money in the ads or in the national earnings reports. also where are those jobs located? sometimes the money isnt telling the whole picture, $60k sounds good but isnt hardly a liveable wage in some locations, or worth the risk in others. I am just saying that for a $15k investment in a non stem degree nursing is a good deal even if it's $40k a year.
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Norseman
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Post by Norseman on Apr 12, 2019 21:49:41 GMT -6
Electricians, HVAC folks, welders, machinists, etc. need only a 2 year degree and can all make $50K per year or better. Not even that. A person can become a journeyman IBEW electrician by completing a 5 year apprenticeship. During that time, they work 40 hours a week for decent pay/benefits and attend classes at night for no cost (other than books). No student loans required. No tuition. Just a willingness to work hard and learn. (says the proud father - with a STEM degree - of a hard working electrician)
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