mkeviking
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Post by mkeviking on Oct 16, 2020 20:17:58 GMT -6
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Post by mkeviking on Oct 16, 2020 20:27:30 GMT -6
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Post by millardaholic on Oct 17, 2020 6:47:57 GMT -6
My thoughts are today is supposed to be the day. Again. I wish it were true. People thought 10/17/19. Then 7/4/20/ Now 10/17/20. That would be a huge blow to the dems if the rumors were true. I just need to see it to believe it....and I don't think I will.
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Post by mkeviking on Oct 17, 2020 7:07:05 GMT -6
My thoughts are today is supposed to be the day. Again. I wish it were true. People thought 10/17/19. Then 7/4/20/ Now 10/17/20. That would be a huge blow to the dems if the rumors were true. I just need to see it to believe it....and I don't think I will. I am right there with you. Tons of evidence he still may be alive, BUT you have certain channels in the Q community pushing this hard (Pryme). If he does come out, it will be after the election. I have zero doubts any longer Trump will be re elected. They always say on certain Q channels, "be careful who you follow."
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Uncle
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Post by Uncle on Oct 17, 2020 8:20:11 GMT -6
CNN ran anti-QAnon articles on the top of their website for most of the day yesterday and they are still lingering there this morning. The main one was written about a guy who immersed himself in the QAnon world for 2+ years and has just recently emerged from the "rabbit hole" to shake his head at how he got so caught up in that stuff ( link). The article basically describes QAnon as a "virtual cult" that helps nobody. Here are snips from that article: The most basic QAnon belief casts President Trump as the hero in a fight against the "deep state" and a sinister cabal of Democratic politicians and celebrities who abuse children. And it features an anonymous government insider called "Q" who purportedly shares secret information about that fight via cryptic online posts.
There aren't solid estimates for the number of QAnon followers worldwide, but it's clear their ranks are growing. A CNN investigation reviewed QAnon-related Facebook pages and groups based only outside the US and found a total of at least 12.8 million interactions between the beginning of the year and the last week of September.
Like many previous conspiracy theory groups, QAnon has become as much about community as its actual theory. The result is a convoluted and ever-changing web of beliefs which branch off from the central worldview. In this case, that includes things like members of the supposed cabal also worshipping Satan, and JFK Jr. having faked his 1999 death in a plane crash to escape the deep state plotters. QAnon has also started assimilating unrelated conspiracy theories, including false ideas about the supposedly dangerous nature of 5G infrastructure and the false, dangerous notion that the Covid-19 pandemic is a ploy to monitor private citizens.
View, the conspiracy theory researcher, said QAnon preys on vulnerable people who in some cases might be suffering from mental health issues. "I think it's a mistake to say that QAnon is a conspiracy theory, because this kind of makes it sound like Area 51 or Big Foot," he said. "It's a community of people that radicalizes them into a world view, that just essentially detaches them from reality."The interesting thing to me isn't whether or not you believe in the theories that QAnon followers seemingly believe, but it's how a mainstream media outlet like CNN is giving it so much attention. You could argue that CNN and other media outlets basically promoted the rise of Donald Trump in late 2015 and 2016 by covering him so much - the 2016 Republican Primary was basically the 2016 Donald Trump primary and one of the main reasons Trump is President is because he received so much coverage - regardless of whether it was favorable of non-favorable towards him, he was the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th stories for pretty much all of late 2015 and 2016 - and really for the last 4 years. ...and if CNN really believed QAnon is dangerous for people to get sucked into, they should know not to give it so much attention.
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Post by torr on Oct 17, 2020 8:54:24 GMT -6
and if CNN really believed QAnon is dangerous for people to get sucked into, they should know not to give it so much attention. Even an abused dog will be happy to see his master.. perhaps in as much as.. even bad publicity is good publicity
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Post by mkeviking on Oct 17, 2020 8:55:36 GMT -6
CNN ran anti-QAnon articles on the top of their website for most of the day yesterday and they are still lingering there this morning. The main one was written about a guy who immersed himself in the QAnon world for 2+ years and has just recently emerged from the "rabbit hole" to shake his head at how he got so caught up in that stuff ( link). The article basically describes QAnon as a "virtual cult" that helps nobody. Here are snips from that article: The most basic QAnon belief casts President Trump as the hero in a fight against the "deep state" and a sinister cabal of Democratic politicians and celebrities who abuse children. And it features an anonymous government insider called "Q" who purportedly shares secret information about that fight via cryptic online posts.
There aren't solid estimates for the number of QAnon followers worldwide, but it's clear their ranks are growing. A CNN investigation reviewed QAnon-related Facebook pages and groups based only outside the US and found a total of at least 12.8 million interactions between the beginning of the year and the last week of September.
Like many previous conspiracy theory groups, QAnon has become as much about community as its actual theory. The result is a convoluted and ever-changing web of beliefs which branch off from the central worldview. In this case, that includes things like members of the supposed cabal also worshipping Satan, and JFK Jr. having faked his 1999 death in a plane crash to escape the deep state plotters. QAnon has also started assimilating unrelated conspiracy theories, including false ideas about the supposedly dangerous nature of 5G infrastructure and the false, dangerous notion that the Covid-19 pandemic is a ploy to monitor private citizens.
View, the conspiracy theory researcher, said QAnon preys on vulnerable people who in some cases might be suffering from mental health issues. "I think it's a mistake to say that QAnon is a conspiracy theory, because this kind of makes it sound like Area 51 or Big Foot," he said. "It's a community of people that radicalizes them into a world view, that just essentially detaches them from reality."The interesting thing to me isn't whether or not you believe in the theories that QAnon followers seemingly believe, but it's how a mainstream media outlet like CNN is giving it so much attention. You could argue that CNN and other media outlets basically promoted the rise of Donald Trump in late 2015 and 2016 by covering him so much - the 2016 Republican Primary was basically the 2016 Donald Trump primary and one of the main reasons Trump is President is because he received so much coverage - regardless of whether it was favorable of non-favorable towards him, he was the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th stories for pretty much all of late 2015 and 2016 - and really for the last 4 years. ...and if CNN really believed QAnon is dangerous for people to get sucked into, they should know not to give it so much attention. You gave a great, non biased opinion. Thank you for that. Especially the part about, why are these media outlets giving so much creedence to an "online conspiracy theory" group? In certain circles of Quanon, they believe that early on in Trumps Presidency that the NSA came to him and his team and told him "we got everything." Every text, every voicemail, every communication from the Cabal, politicians, media, etc. "We can finally take them down." When Trump made his world tour in early 2017, he basically had these countries submit to him, including the Vatican. He told them, "we have everything!" "If you try going to the media, you are on your own, we will expose you." He then went to big tech and made some sort of deal with them. Also, major media, CNN specifically. The intent was to basically show how bad and corrupt the left really is and for Patriotic Americans to essentially, choose a side. Low and behold, you are starting to see some of this play out right now. You also have since the riots, BLM, Antifa, etc. But no focus on them from the leftist media. But for some reason Quanon is focused on. Maybe part of the plan was to get the "name" out there for people to do there own research. I also like where the article says that people with mental problems follow this kind of stuff. Trust me, I am as sane as people get. I have a very analytical mind and am not afraid to do research to put things together. If they dont, I will discredit it. If it does, I will research it further. Anthony Wieners laptop with the "Insurance" file on it is also a smoking gun. The stuff that came out about it via Wikileaks is another coverup by the media. This was the foundation for "Pizzagate". Earlier in this thread I posted the "Frazzledrip" video. The events in that video came directly from that laptop. That has been verified by Sydney Powell. The video exists on the dark web. I have personally seen screen grabs from it. This stuff is happening. Quanon may take it over the top sometimes, but at least they are waking people up. That is what scares the media, they are complicit in covering it up. The following video shows alot of what I spoke about. Charlie Freak is a bit out there, but apparently his wife gets information from high level military operatives to get information out there. The video is very interesting. Take from it what you will.
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Uncle
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Post by Uncle on Oct 17, 2020 9:18:11 GMT -6
I think one point that goes "in-favor" of any QAnon or 'Net-based conspiracy theorist is the Epstein suppression by ABC news...if anyone remembers, in 2015, ABC News anchor Amy Robach had a story about Epstein and all the underage stuff (including a woman telling NBC news she was "trafficked" to Prince Andrew in 2001 when she was 17) but she was told by ABC not to air it. In 2019, after Epstein was arrested and the skeletons in his closet were coming to light, Project Veritas released a "hot mic" video of Amy Robach stating the following: “ It was unbelievable what we had. We had [Bill] Clinton, we had everything. I tried for three years to get it on to no avail. And now it’s all coming out and it’s like these new revelations and I freaking had all of it. I’m so pissed right now. Everyday I get more and more pissed because, I’m like, oh my God, we, it was, what we had was unreal,” Robach says in the video." Whether or not you believe Robach's intentions (perhaps she wanted to be the one to get the scoop on Epstein instead of everything coming out after his arrest), it does not look good for the mainstream media that they had some witness information via interviews from Robach's story about the bad things Epstein was involved in, and they sat on it while potentially more underage children have been trafficked and did not bring light to a global problem... Even Robach herself admits Epstein was probably murdered to cover-up everything that he knew...from the Project Veritas video: "“ So, do I think he was killed? A hundred percent, yes I do,” she says. “He made his whole living blackmailing people." A link to that story - including the Project Veritas hot mic Robach video - can be found here: linkSo when mkeviking talks about the media complicit in the cover-up, it's this type of stuff that lends credence to that...
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Post by mkeviking on Oct 17, 2020 10:03:26 GMT -6
I think one point that goes "in-favor" of any QAnon or 'Net-based conspiracy theorist is the Epstein suppression by ABC news...if anyone remembers, in 2015, ABC News anchor Amy Robach had a story about Epstein and all the underage stuff (including a woman telling NBC news she was "trafficked" to Prince Andrew in 2001 when she was 17) but she was told by ABC not to air it. In 2019, after Epstein was arrested and the skeletons in his closet were coming to light, Project Veritas released a "hot mic" video of Amy Robach stating the following: “ It was unbelievable what we had. We had [Bill] Clinton, we had everything. I tried for three years to get it on to no avail. And now it’s all coming out and it’s like these new revelations and I freaking had all of it. I’m so pissed right now. Everyday I get more and more pissed because, I’m like, oh my God, we, it was, what we had was unreal,” Robach says in the video." Whether or not you believe Robach's intentions (perhaps she wanted to be the one to get the scoop on Epstein instead of everything coming out after his arrest), it does not look good for the mainstream media that they had some witness information via interviews from Robach's story about the bad things Epstein was involved in, and they sat on it while potentially more underage children have been trafficked and did not bring light to a global problem... Even Robach herself admits Epstein was probably murdered to cover-up everything that he knew...from the Project Veritas video: "“ So, do I think he was killed? A hundred percent, yes I do,” she says. “He made his whole living blackmailing people." A link to that story - including the Project Veritas hot mic Robach video - can be found here: linkSo when mkeviking talks about the media complicit in the cover-up, it's this type of stuff that lends credence to that... I believe this is the video you are referring to Uncle. worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhbG3CY6BJcF0k1G1q
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Post by millardaholic on Oct 17, 2020 14:41:51 GMT -6
My thoughts are today is supposed to be the day. Again. I wish it were true. People thought 10/17/19. Then 7/4/20/ Now 10/17/20. That would be a huge blow to the dems if the rumors were true. I just need to see it to believe it....and I don't think I will. I am right there with you. Tons of evidence he still may be alive, BUT you have certain channels in the Q community pushing this hard (Pryme). If he does come out, it will be after the election. I have zero doubts any longer Trump will be re elected. They always say on certain Q channels, "be careful who you follow." You are that certain Trump will be re elected? I felt that way 2 weeks ago but it feels like Biden has been gaining. Maybe because we all have so much invested in this election. Its like watching the vikings lose to the saints in 09. Thats the feeling I get in my belly at times but moreso. You saying that makes me feel better though.
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Post by Purplemachine on Oct 17, 2020 15:02:25 GMT -6
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Post by millardaholic on Oct 17, 2020 15:06:07 GMT -6
CNN (and others)running smear campaigns on Q wil show 2 truths. 1. They are scared of it. If it was nothing to worry about and not true, why go after it? Why waste the time and energy. 2. By doing number 1 and bringing it to light all they have accomplished is giving Q a larger platform. The best way to make a child do something is by telling them not to. Millions of people who did not know Q, now know Q. Most with a brain will look into it. Badda bing, movement gets larger. Thanks you socialist twits, Q could not have done this any better themselves.
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Post by mkeviking on Oct 17, 2020 17:58:15 GMT -6
I am right there with you. Tons of evidence he still may be alive, BUT you have certain channels in the Q community pushing this hard (Pryme). If he does come out, it will be after the election. I have zero doubts any longer Trump will be re elected. They always say on certain Q channels, "be careful who you follow." You are that certain Trump will be re elected? I felt that way 2 weeks ago but it feels like Biden has been gaining. Maybe because we all have so much invested in this election. Its like watching the vikings lose to the saints in 09. Thats the feeling I get in my belly at times but moreso. You saying that makes me feel better though. There are 4 things that I put huge emphasis on. This is why I feel so confident. 1.) Newly registered voters in the Republican Party are eclipsing the Dems almost 3:1. These are numbers from Floridadude and another polling firm often on this site. 2.) The impact of the Blexit movement and the Walkaway movement. These movements are huge. Eyes are being opened to the corruption within the Dem Party. 3.) Primary polling numbers for Trump were even higher than that of Obama's. Trump is not running against anyone in the primaries and he had record turnout. 4.) Overall enthusiasm for Trump is much higher than in '16. The Dems had a stronger candidate then and look what happened. My only slight concern is voter fraud. Ultimately, everything else is just "noise". Pray about it and visualize the positive result. Prayer goes a long way.
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Post by BadgerVol on Oct 18, 2020 8:53:35 GMT -6
I think one point that goes "in-favor" of any QAnon or 'Net-based conspiracy theorist is the Epstein suppression by ABC news...if anyone remembers, in 2015, ABC News anchor Amy Robach had a story about Epstein and all the underage stuff (including a woman telling NBC news she was "trafficked" to Prince Andrew in 2001 when she was 17) but she was told by ABC not to air it. In 2019, after Epstein was arrested and the skeletons in his closet were coming to light, Project Veritas released a "hot mic" video of Amy Robach stating the following: “ It was unbelievable what we had. We had [Bill] Clinton, we had everything. I tried for three years to get it on to no avail. And now it’s all coming out and it’s like these new revelations and I freaking had all of it. I’m so pissed right now. Everyday I get more and more pissed because, I’m like, oh my God, we, it was, what we had was unreal,” Robach says in the video." Whether or not you believe Robach's intentions (perhaps she wanted to be the one to get the scoop on Epstein instead of everything coming out after his arrest), it does not look good for the mainstream media that they had some witness information via interviews from Robach's story about the bad things Epstein was involved in, and they sat on it while potentially more underage children have been trafficked and did not bring light to a global problem... Even Robach herself admits Epstein was probably murdered to cover-up everything that he knew...from the Project Veritas video: "“ So, do I think he was killed? A hundred percent, yes I do,” she says. “He made his whole living blackmailing people." A link to that story - including the Project Veritas hot mic Robach video - can be found here: linkSo when mkeviking talks about the media complicit in the cover-up, it's this type of stuff that lends credence to that... I’m someone VERY skeptical about this Q thing. And I’m someone on the right more so for sure. But I do agree with you on this for sure. I don’t automatically agree with the notion that if there was nothing there networks like CNN wouldn’t mess with it. They’d leave it alone. That isn’t necessarily the case because if it IS not true there are many high profile people who’s reputations are damaged. But I also see both sides of that argument. For me the bigger the “conspiracy” the more the burden of proof. Also when it comes to positions that are extreme and not even necessarily conspiracy is to be self critical and admit where there are admittedly some weak points or wholes. That adds a lot of credibility. I don’t see people who are hardcore Q followers doing that. Evidence that supports the notion they’re all over and evidence to the contrary they ignore or reason away. But I do admit there is at least smoke around these ideas.
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Post by mkeviking on Oct 18, 2020 19:09:43 GMT -6
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