JimmyinSD
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Post by JimmyinSD on Mar 14, 2019 9:11:29 GMT -6
Ive been wondering why conservatives dont start organizing to leave twitter? i am sure its not the only platform out there and it wouldnt be that tough for a conservative techie to write a competing app and get it distributed. its this lack of wanting to move to something else that makes me think that half of the bitching is just so they have something to bitch about. IMO if you dont like a product... dont use the product.
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Post by angryguy77 on Mar 14, 2019 9:36:18 GMT -6
Ive been wondering why conservatives dont start organizing to leave twitter? i am sure its not the only platform out there and it wouldnt be that tough for a conservative techie to write a competing app and get it distributed. its this lack of wanting to move to something else that makes me think that half of the bitching is just so they have something to bitch about. IMO if you dont like a product... dont use the product. I've wondered that too, I think it would take something like the president doing this however for it to be a viable option.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 9:47:46 GMT -6
If truly interested I encourage you to listwn to the video posted in first post this thread. Its worth it to understand how they censor based on their view and not a standard applied equally. Yeah, that video is quite long... But even if, in the past/present, censorship is/was based on their views and not applied equally ... couldn't they do better? Or is that not possible because they are largely liberal? Because that's what I'm hearing here. Liberals can't possibly perform their job duties without biases, but ... what? Conservatives can? Or they should start employing people based on their political preferences and keep it close to 50/50? How about, instead, they put some strict guidelines in place, communicate well, require continuous training/an open dialogue as issues arise, and expect people to do their freaking jobs? Quite a refreshing outlook.
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Post by Funkytown on Mar 14, 2019 10:03:55 GMT -6
It's a fair question Funkytown...good to have you around more btw.
Thanks! Appreciate it! I would say that's because most people don't obsess over politics. I think, your everyday people choose their affiliation because of their opinions on very few topics. I think, for most of us everyday folk, those few topics tend to be the hot topic social issues. Right or wrong, people are going to draw on their own experiences. My personal experience (growing up in small town Iowa, Wisconsin, and Nebraska) aligns fairly closely to what I highlighted here. Is it fair to say all Conservatives this or all Liberals that? No, it's not. But when people have bad experiences that involve themselves and/or their loved ones, it's going to shape their views, just because it's so personal. I, for example, don't "do politics". Do I have passionate views on a few topics? Sure. But overall, I don't do politics. For example: I have no idea what you guys are talking about over here 90% of the time. lol. No clue! So maybe Twitter can hire me? I think I can identify "unhealthy content". The user. Extremists believe what they want to believe and they seek out information that validates their views. Technology makes it easy for all of us to do that. If someone doesn't like what Twitter is doing, they can easily find something else that fits their needs or even create it. Or, I guess, because it's a free country ... they can cry about it too and play the victim. That works too, just not for me...
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Post by Funkytown on Mar 14, 2019 10:10:44 GMT -6
Ive been wondering why conservatives dont start organizing to leave twitter? i am sure its not the only platform out there and it wouldnt be that tough for a conservative techie to write a competing app and get it distributed. its this lack of wanting to move to something else that makes me think that half of the bitching is just so they have something to bitch about. IMO if you dont like a product... dont use the product. So much this.
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Post by gophersturf10 on Mar 14, 2019 10:12:18 GMT -6
If I’m offended by someone/something I stop spending my money there, for instance Target. My wife went there about a month ago for the first time since there transgender stance and I told here not to spend my money at that hell hole. If everyone who’s offended by what then social sites do, don’t belong to em plain and simple, they wouldn’t exists.
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Post by SmokedPears on Mar 14, 2019 10:41:06 GMT -6
Ive been wondering why conservatives dont start organizing to leave twitter? i am sure its not the only platform out there and it wouldnt be that tough for a conservative techie to write a competing app and get it distributed. its this lack of wanting to move to something else that makes me think that half of the bitching is just so they have something to bitch about. IMO if you dont like a product... dont use the product. There was an effort a few months ago to move to Parlor but there were several issues. One being the platform wasn't ready for so many people and crashed. I've thought about this quite a bit over the past several months and another reason I've considered is conservatives want to be heard. I've said this before and over time I see the truth more and more but the longship break up was a microcosm of the nation as a whole. The conservatives didn't want to leave but felt forced. The leftists couldn't wait to see them go. Conservatives see their views being distorted, edited, silenced and just want to be heard. This is the problem with MSM, they ignore stories that don't fit their agenda. So we have to get it out. Moving to another platform just creates a "echo chamber" and it isn't what we desire. The left does desire that and that is why they are constantly trying to limit the counter voice. They don't want to hear it. It's happening on college campuses and ALL of the big tech platforms. PragerU has over 100 videos "restricted" on YouTube. One just last week talks about the differences between men and women. It's not insulting, just factual and common sense. Yet it's restricted. Dave Rubin is a married, gay man and self described liberal but he sees the censorship constantly because he doesn't ascribe to the left's identity politics and intersectionality. Dave and Jordan Peterson are currently working on an independent platform and I wish them well but I'm not hopeful. The spinoffs never seem to do as well. That was sort of a ramble but hopefully it made sense. I could talk about this for hours because I've seen so much of the abuse up close.
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JimmyinSD
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Post by JimmyinSD on Mar 14, 2019 12:37:57 GMT -6
Ive been wondering why conservatives dont start organizing to leave twitter? i am sure its not the only platform out there and it wouldnt be that tough for a conservative techie to write a competing app and get it distributed. its this lack of wanting to move to something else that makes me think that half of the bitching is just so they have something to bitch about. IMO if you dont like a product... dont use the product. There was an effort a few months ago to move to Parlor but there were several issues. One being the platform wasn't ready for so many people and crashed. I've thought about this quite a bit over the past several months and another reason I've considered is conservatives want to be heard. I've said this before and over time I see the truth more and more but the longship break up was a microcosm of the nation as a whole. The conservatives didn't want to leave but felt forced. The leftists couldn't wait to see them go. Conservatives see their views being distorted, edited, silenced and just want to be heard. This is the problem with MSM, they ignore stories that don't fit their agenda. So we have to get it out. Moving to another platform just creates a "echo chamber" and it isn't what we desire. The left does desire that and that is why they are constantly trying to limit the counter voice. They don't want to hear it. It's happening on college campuses and ALL of the big tech platforms. PragerU has over 100 videos "restricted" on YouTube. One just last week talks about the differences between men and women. It's not insulting, just factual and common sense. Yet it's restricted. Dave Rubin is a married, gay man and self described liberal but he sees the censorship constantly because he doesn't ascribe to the left's identity politics and intersectionality. Dave and Jordan Peterson are currently working on an independent platform and I wish them well but I'm not hopeful. The spinoffs never seem to do as well. That was sort of a ramble but hopefully it made sense. I could talk about this for hours because I've seen so much of the abuse up close. but when you continue to use a source, despite their left leanings and slant towards the message, you might as well be writing checks to support said platform. people need to speak with their wallets and even if its a free product, they are making money some how and to continue to use that product only makes them richer.... if you want fair treatment.... bitching about it isnt the way to get it.... take your ball and go home until they are out of business or change their ways.
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Post by SmokedPears on Mar 14, 2019 12:53:33 GMT -6
There was an effort a few months ago to move to Parlor but there were several issues. One being the platform wasn't ready for so many people and crashed. I've thought about this quite a bit over the past several months and another reason I've considered is conservatives want to be heard. I've said this before and over time I see the truth more and more but the longship break up was a microcosm of the nation as a whole. The conservatives didn't want to leave but felt forced. The leftists couldn't wait to see them go. Conservatives see their views being distorted, edited, silenced and just want to be heard. This is the problem with MSM, they ignore stories that don't fit their agenda. So we have to get it out. Moving to another platform just creates a "echo chamber" and it isn't what we desire. The left does desire that and that is why they are constantly trying to limit the counter voice. They don't want to hear it. It's happening on college campuses and ALL of the big tech platforms. PragerU has over 100 videos "restricted" on YouTube. One just last week talks about the differences between men and women. It's not insulting, just factual and common sense. Yet it's restricted. Dave Rubin is a married, gay man and self described liberal but he sees the censorship constantly because he doesn't ascribe to the left's identity politics and intersectionality. Dave and Jordan Peterson are currently working on an independent platform and I wish them well but I'm not hopeful. The spinoffs never seem to do as well. That was sort of a ramble but hopefully it made sense. I could talk about this for hours because I've seen so much of the abuse up close. but when you continue to use a source, despite their left leanings and slant towards the message, you might as well be writing checks to support said platform. people need to speak with their wallets and even if its a free product, they are making money some how and to continue to use that product only makes them richer.... if you want fair treatment.... bitching about it isnt the way to get it.... take your ball and go home until they are out of business or change their ways. I get it. I just don't think it's that easy.
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Post by OkieDokie on Mar 14, 2019 13:18:03 GMT -6
There was an effort a few months ago to move to Parlor but there were several issues. One being the platform wasn't ready for so many people and crashed. I've thought about this quite a bit over the past several months and another reason I've considered is conservatives want to be heard. I've said this before and over time I see the truth more and more but the longship break up was a microcosm of the nation as a whole. The conservatives didn't want to leave but felt forced. The leftists couldn't wait to see them go. Conservatives see their views being distorted, edited, silenced and just want to be heard. This is the problem with MSM, they ignore stories that don't fit their agenda. So we have to get it out. Moving to another platform just creates a "echo chamber" and it isn't what we desire. The left does desire that and that is why they are constantly trying to limit the counter voice. They don't want to hear it. It's happening on college campuses and ALL of the big tech platforms. PragerU has over 100 videos "restricted" on YouTube. One just last week talks about the differences between men and women. It's not insulting, just factual and common sense. Yet it's restricted. Dave Rubin is a married, gay man and self described liberal but he sees the censorship constantly because he doesn't ascribe to the left's identity politics and intersectionality. Dave and Jordan Peterson are currently working on an independent platform and I wish them well but I'm not hopeful. The spinoffs never seem to do as well. That was sort of a ramble but hopefully it made sense. I could talk about this for hours because I've seen so much of the abuse up close. but when you continue to use a source, despite their left leanings and slant towards the message, you might as well be writing checks to support said platform. people need to speak with their wallets and even if its a free product, they are making money some how and to continue to use that product only makes them richer.... if you want fair treatment.... bitching about it isnt the way to get it.... take your ball and go home until they are out of business or change their ways. Phone companies can’t screen your phone calls and blank out what you are saying. Car companies can’t tell you your car can’t be driven to church. There are reasons beyond commerce why what they are doing is still wrong. They are censoring a class meaning they are not treating people equally. If they say no one can say mean things that is not directed at a class, its at everyone. To say people can go elsewhere is ignoring the problem and is not a good and viable answer. They have a monopoly on that business. If Ford was the only viable car and banned people from driving to church and there are no other viable car companies there would be an outcry because its wrong. They are censoring a select class and no matter what platform you are on thats wrong. Saying to move is ignorant
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Post by angryguy77 on Mar 14, 2019 13:21:22 GMT -6
but when you continue to use a source, despite their left leanings and slant towards the message, you might as well be writing checks to support said platform. people need to speak with their wallets and even if its a free product, they are making money some how and to continue to use that product only makes them richer.... if you want fair treatment.... bitching about it isnt the way to get it.... take your ball and go home until they are out of business or change their ways. Phone companies can’t screen your phone calls and blank out what you are saying. Car companies can’t tell you your car can’t be driven to church. There are reasons beyond commerce why what they are doing is still wrong. They are censoring a class meaning they are not treating people equally. If they say no one can say mean things that is not directed at a class, its at everyone. To say people can go elsewhere is ignoring the problem and is not a good and viable answer. They have a monopoly on that business. If Ford was the only viable car and banned people from driving to church and there are no other viable car companies there would be an outcry because its wrong. They are censoring a select class and no matter what platform you are on thats wrong. Saying to move is ignorant It is wrong, but the only way to resolve it is to walk away from it. We can't have legislation forcing them to be fair because I believe that would be wrong as well.
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JimmyinSD
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Post by JimmyinSD on Mar 14, 2019 13:49:00 GMT -6
but when you continue to use a source, despite their left leanings and slant towards the message, you might as well be writing checks to support said platform. people need to speak with their wallets and even if its a free product, they are making money some how and to continue to use that product only makes them richer.... if you want fair treatment.... bitching about it isnt the way to get it.... take your ball and go home until they are out of business or change their ways. Phone companies can’t screen your phone calls and blank out what you are saying. Car companies can’t tell you your car can’t be driven to church. There are reasons beyond commerce why what they are doing is still wrong. They are censoring a class meaning they are not treating people equally. If they say no one can say mean things that is not directed at a class, its at everyone. To say people can go elsewhere is ignoring the problem and is not a good and viable answer. They have a monopoly on that business. If Ford was the only viable car and banned people from driving to church and there are no other viable car companies there would be an outcry because its wrong. They are censoring a select class and no matter what platform you are on thats wrong. Saying to move is ignorant No, you are ignorant to think you dont have options..... you choose to be the victim. there are other platforms, you choose not to use them. I have to think that there are plenty of ways to communicate in the communication era besides twitter. hell instagram is one off the top of my head, i am not a big techie but I am sure there are other options and if people would make an effort those other options would get stronger. so one crashed, work with the developers to make it better and make sure they appreciate your patronage. or just keep whining about how a company that doesnt want your business treats you. kinda sounds like a homo thats pissed because he was told he couldnt get his wedding cake from a Christian bakery.... where did you stand on that one?
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Post by Funkytown on Mar 14, 2019 13:52:40 GMT -6
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Post by CaseOnTheMoveAgain on Mar 14, 2019 15:16:35 GMT -6
They already have alternatives they just haven't taken off.
The one mentioned Parlor and there is Gab
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Post by kramerhammer on Mar 14, 2019 23:22:53 GMT -6
There is outrage about the dossier, but not because it is fake. The outrage is that it was nearly 100% corroborated WHEN THEY GOT IT. They already knew nearly every single thing in it. Your stories are taken down not because of bias, but because they are utter bullshit. That is true. Your media controls you and your POTUS. Shit there have been upwards of 12 FoxNews reporters or analysts working for the WH so far. We are so dangerous that we let you have Congress, POTUS, SCOTUS, the majority of state Governorships and legislatures and you all still are unable to catch us in nearly anything. You all really need to do a better job of protecting us from budget surplus' like Clinton left office with and saving the economy from collapse like Obama did. Please save us, we voted you into nearly fucking everything so quit worrying about us so much and get something done already. No it wasn't ever corroborated when it was released. It was a "please God, let this be true" story your side ran with. The FBI knew it was a fake and they still gave it legs. You're going to sit here and tell me there's not bias or that your side's bias isn't dangerous when they carried water for Hillary? The news spent an eternity talking about Trump pissing on a bed with whores which wasn't backed up with ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL while ignoring Hilary destroying evidence and using her charity to fund campaigns illegally. You look at Obama and his connection prior to running for office. Look at the church he was attending. Can you honestly say that if a conservative had all those shady individuals in his past that the media would ignore that and focus on his opponents VP's IQ instead?
Come on man, you can disagree on policy, but you are not helping your credibility if you can't even acknowledge the points made about this liberal bias.
Again, stop with the fox....you realize we get our news for a ton of other sources? Of course you would all mock those right? You also realize many of our sources like Red State for example backed people that were not the conservatives first choice for president? That's just an example. Don't make this about a referendum on Fox, I'm not going to defend them or their credibility. I"m sure you will find bias on that channel, but as I said, that bias is far less harmful than censoring and entire side of the political spectrum.
Lol, the media controls Trump? Here I thought is was the Russians, or was it martians with a fisting fetish that pull the strings? Which boogyman is it today?
That guy went after many conservatives in the media when running. He's the last one you could say is controlled. BTW, which person could be more detrimental to the country while working for the president: A former fox news employee, or communist....cough cough...Valerie Jarrett...cough cough
Lol you voted us into nothing, we won because the people wised up.
How did a president who had the lowest GDP for his entire post war presidency save us? How did a president with the lowest employment rate for minorities help us? How did the president who had the slowest economic recovery save the country?
A weakened dollar, lost gains in the mideast, a wreaked Libya and a failed healthcare progame are his legacy. Oh wait, he did see to it that gays can get married and illegals can go to college so I guess he has something to his credit.
All that being said, I'm not going to pretend the GOP has done a swell job every time they've had power. For one, the party is run by those who've adopted failed liberal polices. It's also not easy to fix the damage done by liberalism over an entire century in a 4 year presidential term.
As far as Clinton's legacy, you can thank Newt and Dick Morris for that one. Had they not won, Billy would've been governing way differently. He was just smart enough to see that the country wasn't as liberal as he was.
Please watch this in it's entirety. But please also pay particular attention to the last 3 minutes. It tells you all you need to know. And I will include that it is nothing you have ever seen or heard before from ANY of your news sources.
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