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kramerhammer
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 1, 2020 21:13:16 GMT -6
All I hear in this place over and over is "I don't support the disrespect of the troops, the flag, the nation, the sacrifice".
What don't I ever hear in this place? "I support this demonstration because he does X or he doesn't do Y". Why don't I hear that? Because no matter what, you wouldn't support dissension in any form. No matter what. Systemic disguised as righteous indignation.
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kramerhammer
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 1, 2020 21:18:14 GMT -6
LOL You state they are not suffering and go on to state how much they are suffering. From whites or democrats or other blacks, suffering is suffering and I care. Sue me. You don't care and I don't hate you. Make an anthem if you want. If you are suffering, I will stand and respect it. Again they are not suffering... They are pawns of white rich old Democrats and it stop there... LOL. LOL. LOL It stops there........why? Because you said so? Because you are the arbiter? Because you are the soothsayer of all things bullshit? MF please. Yes, democrats are the ONLY party praying on and "keeping the man down". The Republicans are the Knight on a white horse coming to save the black man. Show me a picture of all the black people at Trump rallies and show me that they are 14% of the crowd and I will listen to this bologna. Holy shit.
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torr
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Post by torr on Aug 1, 2020 21:29:34 GMT -6
What confuses you kramerhammer? Do you call a professional plumber to fix a leak and have them recite the pledge of allegiance before they begin? My point is simple to understand. People get paid to perform a function that warrants a wage. If you want singing and dancing professionals to perform, go see a play, an opera, or go to Vegas and watch the show girls. I don't give a rats ass if professional athletes want to protest. Whether or not they are given a legit platform to do their deed is not granted by my permission, so be it. I won't take a part of it. Can you imagine, the entire Vikings team singing the national anthem without a paid singing professional leading it? In all the trades i have professional skills in, i wouldn't entertain you with a protest, or sing, or recite anything. I'd just simply do what was required of me to the best of my professional ability. Nothing more. Whether it be you need a full basement block job, siding and windows installed, or a complete remodel including new cabinets, counter tops, and flooring. You won't get a song and dance from me, just professional work completed.
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Post by gophersturf10 on Aug 1, 2020 21:34:00 GMT -6
They are not suffering.... 9 unarmed blacks killed by police so far this year and 4000 black on black..This could be last year numbers not 100% on that ...Btw huge majority of b on b violence is in democrat cities and states but don’t think you car. Who’s suffering here?? From whites or democrats or other blacks, suffering is suffering and I care. Yes, that I do 100% agree... But when’s the last time o the first time you heard a blmer protest black on black violence??
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kramerhammer
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 1, 2020 21:41:15 GMT -6
What confuses you kramerhammer? Do you call a professional plumber to fix a leak and have them recite the pledge of allegiance before they begin? My point is simple to understand. People get paid to perform a function that warrants a wage. If you want singing and dancing professionals to perform, go see a play, an opera, or go to Vegas and watch the show girls. I don't give a rats ass if professional athletes want to protest. Whether or not they are given a legit platform to do their deed is not granted by my permission, so be it. I won't take a part of it. Can you imagine, the entire Vikings team singing the national anthem without a paid singing professional leading it? In all the trades i have professional skills in, i wouldn't entertain you with a protest, or sing, or recite anything. I'd just simply do what was required of me to the best of my professional ability. Nothing more. Whether it be you need a full basement block job, siding and windows installed, or a complete remodel including new cabinets, counter tops, and flooring. You won't get a song and dance from me, just professional work completed. Do you call a professional plumber to fix a leak and have them recite the pledge of allegiance before they begin? No I do not. Relevance? Do you tune in to football games to watch the national anthem? I still do not get what the fuck you are trying to say. None of those professions are asked to stand for the national anthem. Football players are asked to do that very thing. Thus your false equivalency and the frustrating part of all your lame attempts at explaining the unexplainable. I don't give a rats ass if professional athletes want to protest. Then skip the damn national anthem part of football games and STFU. In all the trades i have professional skills in, Oh please do share. You won't get a song and dance from me, just professional work completed. You can't blame the singers and dancers for singing and dancing when they were asked and or instructed to sing and dance. Some chose not to dance. Big deal.
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kramerhammer
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 1, 2020 21:47:05 GMT -6
From whites or democrats or other blacks, suffering is suffering and I care. Yes, that I do 100% agree... But when’s the last time o the first time you heard a blmer protest black on black violence?? But when’s the last time o the first time you heard a blmer protest black on black violence?? Completely irrelevant. Is it a problem? Yes. Is it a problem that absolutely has to be resolved before systemic racism or even perceived systemic racism can even be addressed? Only according to white people. Why can't both problems be equally addressed and equally be concerned about? Do you even think about the BS you have been fed and have been consuming?
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torr
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Post by torr on Aug 1, 2020 21:56:56 GMT -6
Kramerhammer.. you think it's ok for athletes to do as they want .. all i ask, is that they do what they get paid to do, nothing more.
but i will leave you this quote from George Orwell when he said, “Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.”
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kramerhammer
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 1, 2020 22:02:18 GMT -6
Kramerhammer.. you think it's ok for athletes to do as they want .. all i ask, is that they do what they get paid to do, nothing more. but i will leave you this quote from George Orwell when he said, “Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.” all i ask, is that they do what they get paid to do, nothing more. When standing for the anthem is in their contract, then I will wholeheartedly agree with you.
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 1, 2020 22:04:56 GMT -6
Kramerhammer.. you think it's ok for athletes to do as they want .. all i ask, is that they do what they get paid to do, nothing more. but i will leave you this quote from George Orwell when he said, “Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.” “Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.” The more I practice, the luckier I get.
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Post by gophersturf10 on Aug 1, 2020 22:26:45 GMT -6
Again they are not suffering... They are pawns of white rich old Democrats and it stop there... LOL. LOL. LOL It stops there........why? Because you said so? Because you are the arbiter? Because you are the soothsayer of all things bullshit? MF please. Yes, democrats are the ONLY party praying on and "keeping the man down". The Republicans are the Knight on a white horse coming to save the black man. Show me a picture of all the black people at Trump rallies and show me that they are 14% of the crowd and I will listen to this bologna. Holy shit. Uff da
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Post by Purp1eOne on Aug 2, 2020 7:59:03 GMT -6
I will be fine, I have other interests that will keep me out of the line of fire from all these socially aware athletes. Its so hard on the psyche being around so many people with their fingers on the pulse of all the ills of society, I just don't measure up. Its brilliant really. Kneel during the Anthem to show all of us who defended or love this country how misguided we are. It really speaks to the heart of the issue, smmfh....don't take a page from the Birmingham protests, then these players would actually have to do something tangible, maybe get locked up. Easier to be a twit.... Its so hard on the psyche being around so many people with their fingers on the pulse of all the ills of society, I just don't measure up. Its brilliant really. Kneel during the Anthem to show all of us who defended or love this country how misguided we are. Kneeling is a peaceful and nonviolent protest. Free speech. Isn't that what you fought to defend? Or was it protest in ways that please me, or else, .........boy? I got you. You can protest, if I approve. Because "I" and I alone fought for your right so I have to approve. Otherwise you can just go bail that cotton. I get it. We all get it. Institutional racism is definitely not real.
WC "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”
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mjollnir
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Post by mjollnir on Aug 3, 2020 12:08:13 GMT -6
So don't watch. You won't be missed. LOL at those of you who think your little voice matters. Americans are a fickle bunch. Typical Krammer asked for proof, get presented proof and changes the direction.
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Post by angryguy77 on Aug 3, 2020 12:54:04 GMT -6
Again they are not suffering... They are pawns of white rich old Democrats and it stop there... LOL. LOL. LOL It stops there........why? Because you said so? Because you are the arbiter? Because you are the soothsayer of all things bullshit? MF please. Yes, democrats are the ONLY party praying on and "keeping the man down". The Republicans are the Knight on a white horse coming to save the black man. Show me a picture of all the black people at Trump rallies and show me that they are 14% of the crowd and I will listen to this bologna. Holy shit. What has the democrat party done for blacks besides dressing up in sheets and chasing them down?
Black family is decimated. Blacks still live in poverty. Blacks drop out of school in higher numbers than other races.
Now please name me the conservative policy that has led to this plight continued existence.
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Post by nodakviking on Aug 3, 2020 15:21:41 GMT -6
Of all the times and ways to protest why during the National Anthem? Their goal is to make a political statement why do they chose that moment? Like I said. Why does it have to be approved by you? Because you are white? What would be acceptable to you?My guess is nothing would be acceptable. Nobody living in america currently, were slaves after all. Welcome to America. They don't need your approval. In fact, your disapproval is part of the reason they are pissed. The fact that none of you get that is amazing to me. You don't hate the delivery, you hate the deliverers. Disguise it in all the flags and patriotism you wish. You hate the message. Simple enough? Nice deflection. Why do they do they protest then?
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Post by Viking Horn on Aug 6, 2020 7:21:25 GMT -6
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