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Post by nodakviking on Jul 31, 2020 22:07:53 GMT -6
I will be fine, I have other interests that will keep me out of the line of fire from all these socially aware athletes. Its so hard on the psyche being around so many people with their fingers on the pulse of all the ills of society, I just don't measure up. Its brilliant really. Kneel during the Anthem to show all of us who defended or love this country how misguided we are. It really speaks to the heart of the issue, smmfh....don't take a page from the Birmingham protests, then these players would actually have to do something tangible, maybe get locked up. Easier to be a twit.... Its so hard on the psyche being around so many people with their fingers on the pulse of all the ills of society, I just don't measure up. Its brilliant really. Kneel during the Anthem to show all of us who defended or love this country how misguided we are. Kneeling is a peaceful and nonviolent protest. Free speech. Isn't that what you fought to defend? Or was it protest in ways that please me, or else, .........boy? I got you. You can protest, if I approve. Because "I" and I alone fought for your right so I have to approve. Otherwise you can just go bail that cotton. I get it. We all get it. Institutional racism is definitely not real. Of all the times and ways to protest why during the National Anthem? Their goal is to make a political statement why do they chose that moment? |
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Post by torr on Jul 31, 2020 22:12:24 GMT -6
When i went to the Emergency Room for a heart attack in 2018, i fully expected them to do something to help me out.
In less than 30 minutes, they placed 2 stents into my heart and i felt fine after nearly dying in the ambulance on the way there.
My point is this, They simply did what they were paid to do, nothing more - and i fully expect professional athletes to do what they are paid to do, nothing more. If they want to protest and make statements, they are fully capable of doing this off the field.
As an aside point, people that actually matter - like the doctors that saved my life.. get paid after performing their work, where these athletes get paid in advance of work they might be doing.
Now, just because i can.. i can still say that i am frustrated about Kirk Cousins contract that netted him 84 Million.. for almost doing something.
Wonderful world we live in. Isn't it.
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Post by kramerhammer on Jul 31, 2020 22:21:03 GMT -6
Kneeling is a peaceful and nonviolent protest. Free speech. Isn't that what you fought to defend? Or was it protest in ways that please me, or else, .........boy? I got you. You can protest, if I approve. Because "I" and I alone fought for your right so I have to approve. Otherwise you can just go bail that cotton. I get it. We all get it. Institutional racism is definitely not real. Of all the times and ways to protest why during the National Anthem? Their goal is to make a political statement why do they chose that moment? Like I said. Why does it have to be approved by you? Because you are white? What would be acceptable to you?My guess is nothing would be acceptable. Nobody living in america currently, were slaves after all. Welcome to America. They don't need your approval. In fact, your disapproval is part of the reason they are pissed. The fact that none of you get that is amazing to me. You don't hate the delivery, you hate the deliverers. Disguise it in all the flags and patriotism you wish. You hate the message. Simple enough? |
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Post by kramerhammer on Jul 31, 2020 22:22:13 GMT -6
When i went to the Emergency Room for a heart attack in 2018, i fully expected them to do something to help me out. In less than 30 minutes, they placed 2 stents into my heart and i felt fine after nearly dying in the ambulance on the way there. My point is this, They simply did what they were paid to do, nothing more - and i fully expect professional athletes to do what they are paid to do, nothing more. If they want to protest and make statements, they are fully capable of doing this off the field. As an aside point, people that actually matter - like the doctors that saved my life.. get paid after performing their work, where these athletes get paid in advance of work they might be doing. Now, just because i can.. i can still say that i am frustrated about Kirk Cousins contract that netted him 84 Million.. for almost doing something. Wonderful world we live in. Isn't it. False equivalency. When do they say the pledge of allegiance or sing the national anthem? Just a stupid comparison. |
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Post by torr on Jul 31, 2020 22:35:47 GMT -6
kramerhammer.. since when do these athletes say the pledge of allegiance or sing the national anthem?
ITS NOT THEIR JOB TO DO THAT.
Nor is it the job for doctors to sing.. or make further pledges beyond the Hippocratic Oath.
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 1, 2020 5:14:16 GMT -6
kramerhammer.. since when do these athletes say the pledge of allegiance or sing the national anthem? ITS NOT THEIR JOB TO DO THAT. Nor is it the job for doctors to sing.. or make further pledges beyond the Hippocratic Oath. . since when do these athletes say the pledge of allegiance or sing the national anthem? Right before every game. For quite a while now. Are you serious? |
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Post by snotbubbles on Aug 1, 2020 7:12:50 GMT -6
 don't measure up. Its brilliant really. Kneel during the Anthem to show all of us who defended or love this country how misguided we are. It really speaks to the heart of the issue, smmfh....don't take a page from the Birmingham protests, then these players would actually have to do something tangible, maybe get locked up. Easier to be a twit.... Its so hard on the psyche being around so many people with their fingers on the pulse of all the ills of society, I just don't measure up. Its brilliant really. Kneel during the Anthem to show all of us who defended or love this country how misguided we are. Kneeling is a peaceful and nonviolent protest. Free speech. Isn't that what you fought to defend? Or was it protest in ways that please me, or else, .........boy? I got you. You can protest, if I approve. Because "I" and I alone fought for your right so I have to approve. Otherwise you can just go bail that cotton. I get it. We all get it. Institutional racism is definitely not real. Kramer, that's some real shit stirring. Yes, free speech, I want even "them" to have it, because I sure as hell use it. "or else,...boy" wow man. Never denied that there is racism, and "I" realize the rights involved, but I too have the right to protest as well. No one needs my approval to peacefully protest, and I am equally permitted to protest the protestors. Don't impede anyones rights, deplore human bondage which still exists, and see no real difference in the "people groups' as I see them, don't buy into but one race, the human one. You missed the mark on me so badly, you CANT be a very good shot |
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Post by eternalpurple on Aug 1, 2020 19:25:33 GMT -6
Ladies and gentlemen...............Will you please stand now for the black national anthem. The non verbal answer should prove interesting.
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Post by eternalpurple on Aug 1, 2020 19:29:48 GMT -6
Kneeling is a peaceful and nonviolent protest. Free speech. Isn't that what you fought to defend? Or was it protest in ways that please me, or else, .........boy? I got you. You can protest, if I approve. Because "I" and I alone fought for your right so I have to approve. Otherwise you can just go bail that cotton. I get it. We all get it. Institutional racism is definitely not real. Of all the times and ways to protest why during the National Anthem? Their goal is to make a political statement why do they chose that moment? Because they hate what they are and the country |
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Post by torr on Aug 1, 2020 20:12:18 GMT -6
Again.. I've seen athletes sing along to the national anthem.. even seen ex pro players be the main one singing, but never seen a video where the main attraction is a current professional athlete singing the national anthem. I'm sure it might have happened at some point, but as far as i know, it's not standard operating procedure for any sport or event for a team or individual to sing the national anthem in someone else's stead. Never once have i seen them recite the pledge of allegiance right before a professional event.
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 1, 2020 20:52:25 GMT -6
Again.. I've seen athletes sing along to the national anthem.. even seen ex pro players be the main one singing, but never seen a video where the main attraction is a current professional athlete singing the national anthem. I'm sure it might have happened at some point, but as far as i know, it's not standard operating procedure for any sport or event for a team or individual to sing the national anthem in someone else's stead. Never once have i seen them recite the pledge of allegiance right before a professional event. but never seen a video where the main attraction is a current professional athlete singing the national anthem. What exactly is the relevance of this point? Your doctors are not asked to stand in line for the playing of the national prior to your exam either. So comparing them is just a dumb false equivalency. I am as confused as you are as to what point you are trying to make. Please try to be more clear in what you are saying in the future to avoid having to deal with my utter confusion. |
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 1, 2020 20:53:43 GMT -6
Ladies and gentlemen...............Will you please stand now for the black national anthem. The non verbal answer should prove interesting. Ladies and gentlemen...............Will you please stand now for the black national anthem. You bet I will. If my brother is suffering, I am suffering. If I can support him somehow, some way, I will. |
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Post by gophersturf10 on Aug 1, 2020 21:01:54 GMT -6
Ladies and gentlemen...............Will you please stand now for the black national anthem. The non verbal answer should prove interesting. Ladies and gentlemen...............Will you please stand now for the black national anthem. You bet I will. If my brother is suffering, I am suffering. If I can support him somehow, some way, I will. They are not suffering.... 9 unarmed blacks killed by police so far this year and 4000 black on black..This could be last year numbers not 100% on that ...Btw huge majority of b on b violence is in democrat cities and states but don’t think you car. Who’s suffering here?? |
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Post by kramerhammer on Aug 1, 2020 21:05:58 GMT -6
You bet I will. If my brother is suffering, I am suffering. If I can support him somehow, some way, I will. They are not suffering.... 9 unarmed blacks killed by police so far this year and 4000 black on black..This could be last year numbers not 100% on that ...Btw huge majority of b on b violence is in democrat cities and states but don’t think you car. Who’s suffering here?? LOL You state they are not suffering and go on to state how much they are suffering. From whites or democrats or other blacks, suffering is suffering and I care. Sue me. You don't care and I don't hate you. Make an anthem if you want. If you are suffering, I will stand and respect it. |
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Post by gophersturf10 on Aug 1, 2020 21:09:35 GMT -6
They are not suffering.... 9 unarmed blacks killed by police so far this year and 4000 black on black..This could be last year numbers not 100% on that ...Btw huge majority of b on b violence is in democrat cities and states but don’t think you car. Who’s suffering here?? LOL You state they are not suffering and go on to state how much they are suffering. From whites or democrats or other blacks, suffering is suffering and I care. Sue me. You don't care and I don't hate you. Make an anthem if you want. If you are suffering, I will stand and respect it. Again they are not suffering... They are pawns of white rich old Democrats and it stop there... |
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