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Post by Viking Horn on Aug 11, 2020 14:32:08 GMT -6
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Post by Viking Horn on Aug 11, 2020 14:32:28 GMT -6
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Post by Viking Horn on Aug 11, 2020 14:33:30 GMT -6
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OkieDokie
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Post by OkieDokie on Aug 11, 2020 22:03:16 GMT -6
Yes!!
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kmillard
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Post by kmillard on Aug 11, 2020 22:15:55 GMT -6
Big 10 and Pac 12 should just cancel for the next few years as well.
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Uncle
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Post by Uncle on Aug 12, 2020 7:21:13 GMT -6
I was reading through an ESPN article on the primary health concern that proved influential in the BIG 10's decision to cancel the fall season and it was the " myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart caused by viral infection". From that article ( link): Recent reports from the Big Ten Task Force for Emerging Infectious Diseases and the Big Ten Sports Medicine Committee proved incredibly influential. First-year commissioner Kevin Warren spoke to both groups extensively late last week, and heard information about long-term effects of COVID-19 on Big Ten athletes and others who had been infected with the virus. Information about myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart caused by viral infection, made Warren especially concerned. ESPN reported Monday that five Big Ten athletes have been diagnosed with myocarditis. Florida State president John Thrasher on Tuesday said two Power 5 commissioners brought up their concerns about myocarditis during a call with their colleagues Sunday.
"There has been a lot of discussion about myocarditis," Warren told BTN after the league's announcement. "Any time you're talking about the heart of anyone, but especially a young person, you have to be concerned. We want to make sure we're doing everything we possibly can to keep our student-athletes safe."
Warren reiterated that the general uncertainty surrounding playing fall sports during the pandemic would compromise athletes' health. Although the league took notice of the emotional statements from football coaches, players and others advocating for the season, Warren and most of the presidents ultimately didn't deviate from the position they reached Sunday. I have a question from this: if the BIG 10 is so concerned for the long-term health of it's students, why even expose them in the Spring then to the same thing? The heart condition they use as the basis for their decision is caused by a viral infection, including those that cause the common cold, H1N1 influenza or mononucleosis, and those viruses certainly aren't going anyway anytime soon, either. COVID-19 will still be around in the Spring and it'll just be as contagious as it is now - it's not really going anywhere, and even though the number of infections may drop by Feb 1 or Mar 1, there's still a risk there and the same concerns the BIG 10 cited now will still be relevant in the Spring. I'm a big proponent of safety as much as anyone - it just seems a little strange to me that the reason for delaying the season is a rare heart condition that was already a risk for any student athlete that caught the common cold virus.
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Post by OkieDokie on Aug 12, 2020 10:22:14 GMT -6
I was reading through an ESPN article on the primary health concern that proved influential in the BIG 10's decision to cancel the fall season and it was the " myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart caused by viral infection". From that article ( link): Recent reports from the Big Ten Task Force for Emerging Infectious Diseases and the Big Ten Sports Medicine Committee proved incredibly influential. First-year commissioner Kevin Warren spoke to both groups extensively late last week, and heard information about long-term effects of COVID-19 on Big Ten athletes and others who had been infected with the virus. Information about myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart caused by viral infection, made Warren especially concerned. ESPN reported Monday that five Big Ten athletes have been diagnosed with myocarditis. Florida State president John Thrasher on Tuesday said two Power 5 commissioners brought up their concerns about myocarditis during a call with their colleagues Sunday.
"There has been a lot of discussion about myocarditis," Warren told BTN after the league's announcement. "Any time you're talking about the heart of anyone, but especially a young person, you have to be concerned. We want to make sure we're doing everything we possibly can to keep our student-athletes safe."
Warren reiterated that the general uncertainty surrounding playing fall sports during the pandemic would compromise athletes' health. Although the league took notice of the emotional statements from football coaches, players and others advocating for the season, Warren and most of the presidents ultimately didn't deviate from the position they reached Sunday. I have a question from this: if the BIG 10 is so concerned for the long-term health of it's students, why even expose them in the Spring then to the same thing? The heart condition they use as the basis for their decision is caused by a viral infection, including those that cause the common cold, H1N1 influenza or mononucleosis, and those viruses certainly aren't going anyway anytime soon, either. COVID-19 will still be around in the Spring and it'll just be as contagious as it is now - it's not really going anywhere, and even though the number of infections may drop by Feb 1 or Mar 1, there's still a risk there and the same concerns the BIG 10 cited now will still be relevant in the Spring. I'm a big proponent of safety as much as anyone - it just seems a little strange to me that the reason for delaying the season is a rare heart condition that was already a risk for any student athlete that caught the common cold virus. Bad article its only if you already have that heart condition lol
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Post by OkieDokie on Aug 12, 2020 10:54:36 GMT -6
1 month!
#Sooners will play Missouri State Sept 12, Kansas State Sept. 26, at Iowa State Oct. 3, Texas Oct. 10, TCU Oct. 24, at Texas Tech Oct. 31, Kansas Nov. 7, OSU Nov. 21, at WVU Nov. 28, Baylor Dec. 5
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Post by Uncle on Aug 13, 2020 7:42:33 GMT -6
Clemson Head Coach Dabo Swinney takes an indirect jab at the BIG 10 and PAC-12 when he stated that not having those Power 5 Conferences in the mix for the National Championship doesn't diminish or "damage" the value of the title... The ESPN article does't come across as saying that, but if you read between the lines, it comes across to me as an indirect shot at teams like Ohio St, Michigan, Penn St, Wisconsin, USC, Oregon, etc - it's like saying they don't matter anyway so having them not in the mix for the 2020 National Championship doesn't matter one iota. It's almost as if Swinney is saying the BIG 10 and PAC-12 are at the same level as the Mountain West, MAC and AAC in terms of National Title significance. Even though I'm not a fan of Swinney's arrogance, to be honest about it, he does have a bit of a point...outside of Ohio St, who else from the BIG 10 and PAC-12 actually really competes for a National Title? Sure, Oregon, Michigan St, Notre Dame and Washington made "token" appearances in the National Title Playoffs, but Ohio St is the only one from those two conferences which has made it more than once - the rest of 'em were basically just small bumps for the regular college football powerhouses. Even though two of the five power conferences won't be playing football this fall, Clemson coach Dabo Swinney said he doesn't believe it will diminish the meaning that comes with a national championship.
Asked on Wednesday about whether the absence of the Big Ten or Pac-12 "damages" the meaning of a title, Swinney said no.link
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Post by OkieDokie on Aug 13, 2020 8:23:57 GMT -6
Interesting side story
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Post by Uncle on Aug 13, 2020 8:48:04 GMT -6
I'm not sure if I totally buy into the premise of this article that the decisions of the BIG 10, Pac-12 and other conferences (like the MAC) to cancel fall sports was due to politics. I like the first comment to that article and tend to lean towards that a bit more than politics: "I am not sure the decisions of Big Ten and Pac 10 were made due to politics. I think it was fear of being wrong and subject to liability if any athlete contracted Covid and did poorly with it"; in other words, fear of the unknown of long-term ramifications. The thing I'm struggling to understand that undermines that point a bit is that the BIG 10 and Pac-12 want to resume playing in the Spring, meaning that those conferences that used "science" as their explanations to cancel in the Fall will suddenly feel totally comfortable about all medical conditions in the Spring...that seems very weird to me because the same risks will be there in the Spring as they will be in the Fall.
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Post by Uncle on Aug 14, 2020 19:21:47 GMT -6
I thought ESPN didn't want to go "woke" for fear of alienating some of their viewers.... ESPN’s Rhoden: Dabo Swinney, Nick Saban Want College Football for Money — They ‘Probably Support POTUS 45’ ( link) Thursday on MSNBC’s “The ReidOut,” ESPN’s “The Undefeated” contributing writer William Rhoden suggested that the rationale behind Clemson University head football coach Dabo Swinney and University of Alabama head football coach Nick Saban’s support of playing the 2020 college football season came down not just money but the support of President Donald Trump.
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Post by Viking Horn on Aug 20, 2020 9:44:59 GMT -6
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Uncle
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Post by Uncle on Aug 21, 2020 14:34:02 GMT -6
Interesting decision today by the NCAA: all players can have another year of eligibility, regardless of whether they play this Fall/Spring or not... linkMultiple outlets are reporting that the NCAA Board of Directors approved a blanket waiver allowing all fall sport athletes to retain a year of eligibility.
In what seems to be a very wide-open, generous stance from the NCAA, players will apparently be able to keep a year of eligibility regardless of the number of games played. So theoretically, Trevor Lawrence could play the ACC's whole 10-game season as a junior without it counting against his five years of total eligibility. Players who have opted out or seen their seasons postponed will likewise retain their year of eligibility. This reported decision knocks out one of the big logistical question marks being faced by the NCAA -- that is, just what to do with player eligibility given the differences between conference approaches.
SOURCE: Nicole Auerbach on Twitter Aug 21, 2020, 3:51 PM ET
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