SECRET SAUCE: HOW THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS REBOUNDED

[vikings04]

Dec 16, 2019 10:46:59 GMT -6 Purp1eOne said:

Show me a season where Teddy himself has come anywhere close to playing as good as Kirk has this year.

This year Teddy was part of some nice wins the Saints put together. But if you look at how they won those games their D played lights out.

The Vikings defense this year has fallen off and everyone can see it. And Dalvin's season has slowed down quite a bit.

If you can set aside previous years, not let them cloud your judgement and just focus on this year because that's what the article is talking about. Kirk is the biggest reason for the rebound from last year. If it isn't him what is it?

The Online gets some props also.

I am doubling down on my previous comment. No way in hell should we make Cousins a franchise quarterback. I told you he would break your heart. Big time players make big time plays when it matters.

[Purp1eOne]

vikings04,

I could only see the TV camera angles but everytime I saw the receivers were covered. With the way the Online was getting blown up, I will check those escape routes as well, I didn't see much time to throw. So I am not sure how everything is on Kirk. Didn't see any running lanes either.

So while almost everyone on here likes to pin everything on Kirk when the offense sucks I will check the tape and if it looks like there were open receivers and places for him to move in the pocket and running lanes that the RBs were missing Kirk has a bad game.

But it looked pretty obvious to me the Olineman got owned all night.

[angryguy77]

This thread aged as well as potato salad left in a hot car.

[OkieDokie]

Dec 24, 2019 5:32:10 GMT -6 Purp1eOne said:

vikings04,

I could only see the TV camera angles but everytime I saw the receivers were covered. With the way the Online was getting blown up, I will check those escape routes as well, I didn't see much time to throw. So I am not sure how everything is on Kirk. Didn't see any running lanes either.

So while almost everyone on here likes to pin everything on Kirk when the offense sucks I will check the tape and if it looks like there were open receivers and places for him to move in the pocket and running lanes that the RBs were missing Kirk has a bad game.

But it looked pretty obvious to me the Olineman got owned all night.

[OkieDokie]

Ponder had AD. When AD played we had a chance to win as we didn’t need Ponder to win it for us.

Kirk has Cook. When Cook plays we have a chance to win as we don’t need Kirk to win it for us. Kirk also has Diggs/Adam so more weapons. Kirk is better than Ponder but not by a ton due to having more weapons to use.

Cook was out last night and we need our qb to step up. He didn’t.

When Ponder was bad it was always said because our oline was bad. Rinse/repeat last night. Yes, our oline was bad but a good qb can make them better.

Ponder was famous for running out of a protected pocket. What happens then is the oline doesn’t know where the qb will be since once ball is snapped they have back to qb. A skittish qb moving around too much means oline doesn’t know where to protect. Many times the pocket was ok if Ponder had moved up into it but he bailed so fast. Kirk does this too. Not as much but way too often. So oline gets more blame than they should. The other problem is some qbs can move fast to avoid players when scrambling. Kirk is turtle slow and defenders can chase him down faster.

So Kirk is better than Ponder but has similarities. And Kirk needs Cook like Ponder needed AD. Except AD was healthy more often than glass man Cook. Cook has yet to play a full season. Always gone at crunch time of season. At least he always gets the holidays off, smart man.

[OkieDokie]

3 man rush on 3 of the sacks lol. Any qb can see and avoid that but not Kirk. Case woulda made plays with feet or thrown away at a much cheaper salary

[OkieDokie]

Look at this. Tell me why our $84,000,000 qb could not see and avoid this?

[SmokedPears]

Dec 24, 2019 8:54:48 GMT -6 angryguy77 said:

This thread aged as well as potato salad left in a hot car.

Exactly...

They rebounded with blue smoke and mirrors. Which means they never really rebounded at all. 

GM sucks
Coaching sucks
Kirk sucks
O-line sucks
Defense can't stop the run. 5.8 ypc... FIVE POINT EIGHT!

All at home...
Against that fucking team...